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Exp 6: Concept Proven?

12/01/2004

I had supercharged three of my five Panasonic sealed lead acid 7.2 AH batteries on the SG energizer using my bench power supply instead of a source battery. In order to condition my batteries by charging them on the SG multiple times, I figured I would discharge one of the batteries by using it to charge a new battery, and see if anything interesting happened.

During the supercharging process with the bench supply on my first three batteries, I had noticed that after a certain amount of time (usually about 25-30 hours), the voltage readings taken at the terminals would increase at a faster rate than had been recorded earlier in the charging process. I can only guess at this time why that happens, but since it happened with the bench supply as the source, I fully expected it to happen with a battery as the source. The question would be, would the source battery drain just as fast as the accumulator battery charged, even in this non-linear area of the charge?

During the first 35 hours or so, the source seemed to be draining a bit more quickly than the accumulator battery was charging. But, as I recorded with other batteries, the system hit an area of non-linear charging, and I recorded a net increase in total voltage at the terminals of the batteries.

Before the experiment was halted, I recorded a net positive gain of 1.24 volts at the terminals.

A few comments regarding these results:

1. This experiment used a single source battery and a single accumulator battery. It has been recommended by John and Peter that four batteries be used as an accumulator bank. This may very well improve the performance of the system, if there is enough energy to charge four batteries with only one battery.

2. Voltage readings at the terminals is not in any way a definitive way to measure energy gained or lost in a battery. I will be purchasing a battery analyzer to perform better analysis of what is happening here. That said, a net voltage gain in the system can't be a bad thing, which shows promise for future tests.

3. I started these measurements after monkeying with my new circuit for an hour or two (testing to determine a good base resistance). During this process, the accumulator battery charged 0.25 volts, and the source battery discharged 0.15 (net gain of 0.1 volts), so actual results were even a little bit better than recorded. I did not include these measurements because a moderate amount of time had elapsed between tuning the circuit and starting the charge cycle.

4. This result was recorded when charging a NEW, unconditioned battery. John and Peter have stated that results improve after supercharging and conditioning the batteries to accept radiant energy components. They have stated that the batteries eventually charge much more quickly after conditioning.

Here are the results of my experiment, open to interpretation:

Sterling's Response

Dec. 1, 2004

Hi Jim,

Two things to bear in mind.

(1) The Bedini SG circuit does often show a net gain in charge during one cycle (one set in, one set out). The real test, though, is to then reverse the batteries, or rotate them. What you will find is that the net charge drop between rotations is generally greater than the net charge gain during one session. It is the net that is more telling than what you see in one session.

(2) A battery has an optimum operating region. In that region, the charge discharge will take place slowly. Above or below that, the change in voltage changes more rapidly. With the 6V Panasonic batteries I'm using, for example, when it gets up into the 7 volt range, it zips along until it maxes at around 8.04 volts. We're talking .01 volts per second almost, while in the range of 6.5 volts, I might see a change of 0.01 volts per ten minutes, for example. So the increased rate of charge in the higher voltage does not tell you anything in terms of increased power going into the system.

Keep up the experimenting.

Sterling