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Preface Note

by Sterling D. Allan

February 24, 2013; 8:55 am MDT [GMT-7]


This is a photo I shot today at the Evolve Expo. Jerry saw that yesterday, and pulled his small bonded discs out of his pocket, and said, "You mean something like this?"
This is a photo I shot today at the Evolve Expo. Jerry saw that yesterday, and pulled his small bonded discs out of his pocket, and said, "You mean something like this?"

On February 14, I had posted a preface comment for this page saying that I had finally been convinced that it turns out that this effect is recognized by science. However, based on new information received yesterday, and witnessed first hand last night, I am revising my outlook on this phenomenon.

First, credit for the discovery of the effect listed on this page goes to Jerry Smith of Littleton, Colorado, who I met with yesterday, along with about ten other people, including Foster Gamble. Jerry works with Jon DePew of MagneticSpectrum.com, who is probably the most knowledgeable person on the planet regarding Leedskalnin. I should say that with my exposure yesterday to Jerry, that my opinion about Leedskalnin has returned to one of awe.

Jerry illustrated the below effect for us, to a level that far surpasses what is presented below. He showed how by momentarily applying just 0.1 Watt through a wire passing between two small blocks gives the blocks an attraction to each other that is stronger than the strongest magnets available on earth today. It is a room temperature superconductor effect, emitting no external magnetic fields, while retaining a powerful hold.

He had DARPA there visiting last week (but is not going to be working with them, especially since others are likely to come up with the funding they need).

He also illustrated several other amazing magnetic phenomenon that showed that he has a genius grasp of magnetism and its practical applications. He has successfully brought several inventions to market, and holds many patents.

I received a scathing comment from one of Jerry's friends yesterday, rebuking us for posting the below information on the web -- something Jerry has spent ten years and several million dollars developing. We were not aware of the origin of this technology. And when I asked Jerry last night if he wants us to take this down, he replied something to the effect: "Nah, it needs to get out there."

I kept asking for permission to video the many effects he was demonstrating to us, but he declined.

Verbally, here is a brief (and rough) synopsis of some of the effects we witnessed:

  • Magnetized brass rods.
  • A silver dollar shrunk to half its size by compressing of the atoms
  • What looked like a brass puck maybe 1.5 inches in diameter and 1/4 inch thick dropped above a larger brass colored block, and gradually dropping until stopping around 1/4 inches above the block.
  • Four iron washers separated vertically on a glass rod above some kind of magnet, and the iron washers were separated by a decreasing distance according to a Fibonacci sequence. And when the assembly was turned up-side down, the distance increased according to the same ratio. The washers did not drop off.

Hopefully, now, these things will be able to finally move forward more rapidly.

We found Jerry to be an astonishing person, with a depth of knowledge and scientific curiosity and demonstrated accomplishment that is rare.


Photo by James Rodney.
Photo by James Rodney.

Compiled by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
February 11, 2013


For some of you, this may be old news, but this is the first that I have encountered this.

Check out this 21-second video by my NEST associate, James Rodney (most of you know him by the cool 5 kW E-Cat design he came up with). In this video, he shows a crazy phenomenon. Two blocks of flat, tool steel with a small channel between them, just large enough to run an 18-gauge, insulated wire through, become bonded to each other when a current from a car battery is very briefly (fraction of a second) run through the wire. The bond doesn't seem to be magnetic, as the bonded blocks don't exhibit any external magnetism, and there is barely any magnetism after the halves are sheered apart.

That's a lot of holding power!

I don't see any reason why this effect hasn't already been implemented widely in industry, other than that the mainstream has a hard time putting things to use where they can't visualize where the energy is coming from, hence perhaps it yet belongs out here among us who don't have a problem playing with "exotic" modalities.

This certainly sheds some good light on Edward Leedskalnin, who apparently first reported on this effect that he called a "Perpetual Motion Holder." His apparatus was much more complicated, involving a U-shaped portion, and coils involving many windings and directions.

The variation illustrated by Rod, as told to him by Mike Waters, may be much more practical, and may help push this into mainstream science and widespread industrial application.

I called up Mike Waters (another of our associates at NEST) to get some clarification on a few things, and here are a few things he mentioned:

  • Don't know of any use of this principle in mainstream applications, though there should be.
  • Can't remember where he got the idea to use two flat pieces of metal (his are mild steel), it was years ago.
  • The surfaces have to be absolutely smooth.
  • It seems that the "bonding" effect is proportional to the current that is passed and the amount of time the current is passed, but he never characterized this.
  • You can undo the "bonding" if you reverse the direction of the current, but only if you do it for close to the same amount of time and current.

I picture the following scenario in industry. Something that needs to be supported (via this bond) has a specific amount of current run through it for a specified amount of time. The current and polarity and time are notated on a label. Then, when the item needs to be released, the reverse polarity is run for the same amount of time, and viola, the bond is broken. To be repeated an infinite number of times. No glue, no chemicals, no magnetism required.

In Russ Gries report below, you'll see a video where he energized one of these two years ago, and it was still holding and lit up an LED light when he forcefully disengaged it.

The number of applications of this are vast. It could be used for door locks, via a specific combination of currents and polarities that only the user dials in and can reverse. Then, again, this is a terrible idea, because anyone who tries to unlock the door with any combination is going to be changing the combination. So never mind, on that application.

Contents

Parameters

I'd be curious to know what the parameters of this phenomenon are, exploring such variables as:

  • Strength of the bond; force required to separate the blocks
  • Strength of the bond over time
  • Minimum current required
  • Minimum time required
  • Relationship between current, time and block size
  • Relationship between current, time, block and bond strength, or is it all-or-nothing?
  • Wire gage required
  • Relationship between wire gauge and block size
  • Different kinds of metals that can display the effect
  • Different shapes
  • Could it be used in series, one set bonded then bonded to another?
  • How far away from 'center' can the channel be and the effect still work?
  • Does the channel have to be straight?

It seems there could be a bunch of masters and Ph.D. degrees obtained from characterizing this effect, bringing it into mainstream Academia, redeeming it from the fringe-only present classification.

Maybe these parameters have been worked out somewhere. It wouldn't take a deep budget to study/characterize this stuff. Garage tinkers could easily do it.

Cautions

Wires Weld to Battery Posts, and to Hands!; Hydrogen Explosion

From: "T Lee Buyea Fla.News Service" <ranger116@webtv.net>
To: sterlingda
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:00 AM [GMT-7]
Subject: Important -- You need to post a warning on your website !!


About 25 years ago I had an old car battery in my garage and I assumed it was probably almost dead from not being used for a year.
I took a piece of wire about two feet long held the two ends sticking out between my thumbs and forefingers and the middle part of the wire running across the palms of my hands.
I wanted to just touch both battery posts for a split second to see how strong a spark I would get to show if there was still a charge in the battery ?
When I touched the two ends of the wire to the posts for only a tenth of a second, the two tips of the wire instantly welded themselves to the posts and the wire that I could not get out of my hands quickly enough lit up like a light bulb filament burning me across both palms of my hands badly. (The wire actually stuck to the palms of my hands because it had burned a slot in them and the wire tips were still welded to the battery posts, causing a bad burn in a place you can not help but keep touching when you use your hands and it took a long time to heal.) The fact that the whole thing was such an unexpected surprise also made it take longer to get away from.
Also there is always hydrogen coming out of a lead acid battery that the spark can set off all the way back inside the battery causing the battery to explode. So you need to put a warning about this along with this article.
You can post this story if you want.

- - - -

From: Russ Gries
To: Sterling Allan
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:34 AM
Subject: Re: Important -- You need to post a warning on your website !!


Yes, excellent thoughts. This is definitely a possibility if people are going to play with this, especially on a brand-new and/or good-charge car battery. Or any battery for that matter. Only having a length of wire a couple of feet long is a dead short and definitely will weld itself to the battery. Definitely a disclosure that needs to be posted with all videos and information about the single bar replication.
When using Ed's Perpetual motion Holder there's enough wire wrapped around the core that the resistance is fairly high, and the result would not be the same. It's not a dead short.
Safety first, indeed.

Descriptions

Replications

Jim Rodney Report

On February 07, 2013, Jim Rodney wrote to me:

"Edward Leedskalnin, creator of the Coral Castle, created a device referred to as a Toroidal Power Unit, or what some are calling a perpetual motion holder. The device, as it is most widely known, consists of a U-shaped iron or steel bar with an opposing coil on each arm and a separate bar that spans the ends of the U. When energized for just a second or two with the cross piece of metal closing the U, the device becomes magnetized & holds the cross bar in place via magnetic attraction, apparently permanently, with no further power input. It remains in this state as long as the cross piece is in place. As soon as the crosspiece is pulled off, the magnetic bond is gone, except for a small amount of residual magnetism. Many people have done replications of this, including Russ Gries, who did some experiments using a simple U steel bolt. http://rwgresearch.com/open-projects/edward-leedskalnin-tpu/
Several weeks ago, Mike Waters [NEST] mentioned a greatly simplified version of this device that demonstrates the same or very similar effect. I became intrigued enough and un-intimidated enough by the simplicity to attempt a replication. This device uses no coils and consists simply of two blocks of steel, each with one of the faces dressed so that the blocks fit together very accurately. A narrow slot is machined down the center of the faces such that when the blocks are placed together, a square channel is formed. A single piece of insulated 16g or 18g copper wire is placed in the center channel, long enough that the ends can be touched to the terminals of a power source.
I obtained a 1"x2"x14" bar of A-2 De-Carb Free tool steel. A friend, Dale Franklin, a master machinist -- the other guy in the demo video -- took the raw bar, cut it, squared the sides, dressed the faces, cut the center slot, and created two very accurate & beautifully machined blocks. The blocks showed a very slight magnetism, most likely from the machining process.
With the blocks in place, I first tried touching the ends to a 12V lantern battery. Although a small spark was produced, there was no noticeable effect on the blocks. Next I took the blocks out to my car and touched the ends briefly to a car battery for just a split second. The blocks were instantly bonded together powerfully enough that it took me 5 minutes or so to finally separate them by shearing them apart. I did this multiple times.
Even in the bonded state, the blocks showed little or no magnetism on the outside surfaces. Mike Waters said that he has kept some for long periods of time in this bonded state. The bonding seems to be permanent and does not diminish over time.
With the bars in the bonded state, at one point I left the wire in place and hooked the ends to a voltmeter but there was 0 voltage. There was also almost no noticeable magnetism on the outside of the steel. What is happening on the inside is the mystery. The theory is that there is some kind of permanent field set up between the pieces by the electrical pulse.
Here's the link to my demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWSAcMoxITw [embedded above] My iPhone ran out of space so it's cut off. I'll be doing a better demo and will post when complete.
I plan to try additional experiments, changing specific parameters such as:
1. Varying the power of the electrical charge
2. Varying the time the charge runs through the wire
3. Varying the ratio of volts to amps
4. More detailed and in-depth testing for magnetic fields, etc.
Thanks again to Mike Waters for supplying the specs, instructions and guidance via which this experiment was created and to Dale Franklin for perfectly machined blocks.
Dale Franklin, owner of Contract Manufacturing, who I mention above, is a master machinist who does amazing precision work in his shop using some of the best machining equipment in the world. Dale has made parts for JPL, NASA, and the Space Shuttle, as well as just about every major aircraft company. Depending on his availability, he could be an invaluable resource for inventors/companies in the prototyping process who need precision machining/manufacturing.

/End of quote by Jim Rodney

Russ Gries' Report

On February 11, 2013, before publishing this page in our news for the first time, I ran this by Russ W. Gries, to get his input. He responded (slightly edited):


Yes, Just off to bed now... There may be more.
Here are the 3 videos I posted so far...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=832qz3s1M-s - [Will ED's PMH Work After 2 Years??? ED LEEDSKALNIN States It Will! Lets Find Out; Aug 22, 2012]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alnqltMb-pM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxRseYBYbbQ
http://rwgresearch.com/open-projects/edward-leedskalnin-tpu/
http://www.coralcastlecode.com/
http://www.magneticuniverse.com/
Also see: http://www.leedskalnin.com/index.html
My videos are not the motor that Mr. Angus Wangguess is working on, but it shows some cool [corroboration]...
Still think ED is a fake? I know you told [me] it was all just normal stuff while you were at the Coral Castle. But there are some things Ed was working on that were real. We just got to look deeper. ;)

Mike Waters' Report

On February 11, 2013 7:44 PM [GMT-7], Mike Waters wrote:

Hi Sterling
Here is a picture of the original I made. 5/8" x 1 1/2" x 6". Could be any size.
Note 2 slots so I could put the wire either in the middle or put the slot in just one block. Seems to make no difference to bond strength.
I'm trying to track down where I heard about this to make sure credit goes where it is due. I'll let you know as soon as I have a clear history. I made a couple of calls. Normally I remember contacts but this was during a very hectic time and many years ago.
One thing I would make clear is that the time interval of current is extremely short. Microseconds maybe. You literally just want to smack one of the leads past the terminal so that you see a small spark. That's it. I want to make sure people don't try to hook up both ends of a short wire and possibly damage their batteries.
Also, regarding the ability to undo the bond, using a very specific time or current amount is still a guess. I was able to undo the force just twice after many attempts. Almost always there was no reduction in force despite reversing "polarity". It is as if the contact time was so short that it would simply flip the other way at full strength.
For a lock application, this could mean that a very precise time based unlock code is possible. The biggest problem I see for locks is that any dirt could create a gap and reduce bond strength. The primary use initially as I see it is as a teaching tool. This could be a very valuable head scratcher that challenges conventional thinking. However, it may also be easily explained in the next few days as people take notice. We will see.
Anyway, if anyone has questions or wants to see the effect done, I am happy to demo on Skype.
The wire is regular 14g house wire. Braided works fine also. The slot is 1/8" so it is loose enough to remove the wire. Since sliding is the only way to manually separate, you don't want the wire to get stuck.

Discussion

On February 12, 2013 7:01 PM [GMT-7], Rosemary Ainslie wrote:

Dear Sterling,
I've just watched that video. Very intriguing. What I suspect this effect relates to is - the Casimir effect - where there can be a permanent bonding of materials with no evident energy applied. Casimir actually proposed that this effect was mathematically required. But it has also been experimentally proven. But only on a very small scale. The breakthrough here - if such it is - is that this same effect has now proved on the 'bigger scale' - both by Leedskalnin and now - even more elegantly - by James Rodney.
It's HUGELY significant and yet rather intriguing that all this is so readily dismissed - by those who appear to be more 'learned'. Here's what the standard model tells us. A changing electric field will induce a magnetic field. And a changing magnetic field will, correspondingly, induce an electric field. Both effects are expected to be transitory. What beggars the mind here is that THIS magnetic field is NOT a transitory effect. That bonding is stable - and strong. A magnetic field HAS been induced. But it has not resulted in the creation of a permanent magnet. It has only resulted in the creation of a permanent bond. To my way of thinking this points to the fact that the magnetic field may be a primary force. What it also points to is the possibility that coalesced matter may be bonded by some variation of this same magnetic field. Which puts paid to 'gravity' being responsible for the accretion of matter.
It's mind bending. And laughable that our experts are so quick to dismiss the significance. If these facts are correct then we're grossly underusing a primary force. Possibly we need to start thinking 'magnets' to get through those elusive 'so called' gravity fields.
Kindest regards
Rosemary Ainslie

In the News

  • Featured: Magnetism >
    Leedskalnin's "Perpetual Motion Holder" (PMH) Bond Effect - In a super-simple variant of Edward Leedskalnin's device, two blocks of flat steel with a small channel between them, just large enough to run an 18-gauge, insulated wire through, become bonded to each other when a current from a car battery is very briefly run through the wire. (PESWiki; February 11, 2013)

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  • http://Overunity.com
    • Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED Ed wrote: "The drawing on the front cover is like the perpetual motion holder I made. If I run North and South pole magnets from a car battery (car battery is stronger than zinc battery) in those two coils while the laminated iron cross bar is across the iron bar prong, and fill the iron bar orbit with magnets, then those North and South pole magnets will never stop running around, they will run around until the cross bar is pulled off." (January 07, 2010)
    • Re: EBLv Gen/Motor Design by Bruce The parallel set remind me the Leedskalnin's perpetual motion holder: we start an self-oscillation and it never stop... (May 14, 2012)


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