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Ian Soutar wrote on November 10, 2008;
"I would have to give this idea of small scale nuclear reactors a thumbs down ... harmful for the environment.
I have lived in Northern Ontario where hundreds of square miles are ruined for ever by uranium mining. There is no solution to this since they grind up a mountain basically, extract the uranium and place the mine tailings in a huge pile. Rain carries the other radioactive materials like radium etc down into the ground water. The Snake River in northern ontario has radiation warning signs every 20 feet along its banks ... which will have to be maintained for longer than human civilization.
So this kind of energy is trading global warming for local destruction of land. Governments concentrate on the issues of disposing of waste from reactors ... but the major environmental disasters occur from mining the damn stuff.
No go on the micro nuclear projects from me. I would not only give them a low rating ... but would prefer those options not on the site at all."
Robert Pritchett wrote on November 10, 2008;
Hyperion identified the "active ingredient material as uranium hydride (UH3)) being used for these nuclear batteries. They say it's safe. Probably safer than irradiated flouride in our city drinking water.
And we do nuclear cleanup and remediation training here in Richland, WA USA.
Coal consumption produces more radioactivity than "nuclear mining". New methods for mining coal follows a seam, does a narrow burden removal directly over the seam and then the tailings are put back right after the coal is extracted. Much better than previous strip-mining methods of the past. it is pretty cool to watch in operation when flying across the nation.
There is enough radioactive material already extracted all over the world and in burial locations that further "mining" probably is not necessary. Canada needs to get somebody up on the Snake River and make it safe again where it is contaminated. I doubt those signs go very far up there in Ontario.
We live right below Hanford and it supposedly is the most severely contaminated nuclear site that is in the process of being cleaned up before the radioactive contamination hits the Columbia River. We have a real incentive to keep the river "clean", even though any river will cleanse itself every 7 miles (combination of UV filtration and water flow). Our water intake for the city is right below the "300 Area", where much of the radioactive fuel rod construction occurred.
Ian's reason for giving Hyperion a low rating doesn't hold water. I worked around nuclear material for 13 years. Cleanup efforts are on-going and contaminated railcars and vehicles are decontaminated all the time here. The radioactive materials are recaptured and reprocessed.
Get educated and take some nuclear rad training. What about the airborn contamination and all the areas in SW USA that were doused during the '50s above ground nuclear tests? Much worse than tailings on a river. And by the way, there are 5,000 radioactive homes in Japan with a waiting list for occupants because the concrete in those homes has cesium in it and it is preserving the lives of the occupants - less illness, living longer healthier lives. (Reference: Stop Cancer with Cesium)
Back in the early 1900s, radioactive materials were used as a health aid. (It’s Time to Tell the Truth About the Health Benefits of Low-Dose Radiation).
Today the scare-mongers have gained control of nuclear mindshare instead of offering the promise that nuclear power has given mankind with abundant power. France doesn't seem to have a problem with it, so why do we?
It all depends on who is doing the educating.
By the way, since these minerals are extracted from the ground, has anyone bothered to ask the logical question of how they "contaminate the environment", if they already occur there naturally? Answer: We disturbed the earth without respecting it. It fought back. The best method I've found is to follow the rule of; "Leave it better than you found it". That way we are not fouling our own nests."
- Uranium Mining and Milling Wastes - Waste rock is produced during open pit mining when overburden is removed, and during underground mining when driving tunnels through non-ore zones. All these piles threaten people and the environment after shut down of the mine due to their release of radon gas and seepage water containing radioactive and toxic materials.
- Uranium mining left a legacy of death (Desert News; Feb. 13, 2001)
Nov. 11, 2008
I have a cousin who gave a presentation to our Alternative Energy User Group a few months and Sterling was present as well to hear a really neat story. He developed a process to recover radioactive "Waste" isotopes from materials that were turned into ash. They take those captured isotopes and convert them into fuel rods. He's been doing it for a few years now. The radioactive "waste" that was sent to France is coming back after 20 years of just sitting in one place, because they didn't really know what to do with it. He does and his company is making good money recovering what otherwise would have been considered unrecoverable and buried somewhere. The ash that was contaminated can be put back on the ground, but DOE still considers it radioactive so they containerize and bury perfectly good ash that doesn't have a radioactive reading any longer ( job security and politics).
Aaron Allen just got his Masters degree. He is a nuclear physics chemist who comes from a family of people who believe they are supposed to do things to benefit all mankind. And many of them have already.
By the way, he rides a bicycle to work.
So the doom and gloom regarding radioactive materials really is a lot of hot air. We are making a positive difference in the world.
Nuclear Energy is Alternative Energy. It is OverUnity, if the definition is to gather energy from something small and produce energy at much higher quantities than can be imagined.
So yes, Nuclear does have its place on PESWiki. Look at all of the non-proliferating nuclear generators we have addressed in the last few months. We should take advantage of all of the God-inspired innovations we've received instead of being afraid of them to bless mankind. Nuclear does not need to be shunned.
I got into the business because I truly believed we could do "cradle to the grave" with the technology and many of us on the Hanford site dedicated countless hours to accomplishing that very thing. We proved it could be done. But politics got in the way.
Now if you really what to be afraid of something, try lithium-ion batteries that get into water (explosive), or magnesium engine blocks that catch fire, or Coleman mantles (radioactive wicks), or gasoline or methanol, or Stoddard solvent (causes birth defects), or carbon tetrachloride.
But don't be afraid of a simple sealed nuclear battery that is completely recyclable after 7 to 10 years. That is being totally irrational and illogical.
Things that have been contaminated with nuclear materials can be cleaned up, decontaminated and reused. We do it all the time.
Energy cannot be destroyed, It can only be transferred.
And radioactive waste really isn't waste. It just has been converted into something we have not set our minds to collecting yet. One mans' garbage is another man's treasure and my cousin proved it with radioactive isotope recovery equipment he was inspired to build and use.
We also have a page on nuclear remediation at PESWiki and another on a simple process of using hydrogen to "neutralize" nuclear materials.
We know how to work properly with the materials and treat them with the respect they deserve. Contaminated ground and water can be decontaminated and cleaned up safely. We are doing it now.
As far as the Snake River in Ontario and the remaining radioactive contaminates above ground, let's get the folks who know how to clean it up employed and get it done. The contaminates are not man-made. The earth made them and can reabsorb them.
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